A Harder Table, and Still Slower
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Part of a bigger question: Is the task we are studying actually hard? – Often it is not. A rule from 1990 with no parameters beats the trained model on the task most of these results were measured on, and what an intervention costs is set by the task's own structure.
In plain English
What we asked. On tasks that follow a rule, the easy-start recipe saved more the harder the task. On a random lookup table it was slower. We asked whether a harder table would change that.
What we found. It did not. On a table about twice as hard, the easy start was still about 3,000 steps slower, at a difficulty where it had saved a quarter of the steps on a task with a rule.
Why it matters. So the two conditions are separate. The task has to be hard, and the easier versions have to share a rule with it. Difficulty alone is not enough.
The rest of this page is the technical record: the design, every number, and the limits. It is written for a reviewer, and you do not need it to have understood the result above.
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23.4 [18.1, 28.7]means our best estimate is 23.4 and the true value is probably somewhere in that range. If a range includes zero, we cannot claim an effect. - Results that rule an idea out are kept. Roughly half of what is published here says an approach did not work, including plenty of our own. Those pages are the output, not a shortfall: knowing which direction is a dead end is what lets the next experiment go somewhere better, and most of what we now rely on came out of understanding why something else fell short. Work that only publishes what worked is not measuring anything.
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EXPLORATORY. Not a preregistered study. Local CPU,64training runs of32000steps on sixteen fresh seeds. The design, a disclosed calibration and the kill test were committed (325cbac) before any run.
Program v2 Bucket A, item A68. Decisive computation: . Output: analysis/table_harder.py.analysis/table_harder.json
The question
On a random 20-symbol lookup table the easy start was slower than plain training at every rate, by +1976.2 [+1486.8, +2465.7] steps with both arms at their best rate (A70). For the maximum, a harder version turned a slow-down into a saving (A62, A65). Does a harder table do the same?
Design: A66's loop with a 24-symbol random table (seed 6600), 32000 steps, sixteen fresh seeds; both arms rate-tuned from the start at 0.005 and 0.008 (A70's optimum and the rate below it); best of each arm, paired. Kill test, fixed before execution: best mixed minus best plain includes zero or lies above it. Anchor, in code: A70's plain 0.008 run on its first seed reproduces -- held.
Results
Arm (sixteen seeds, random 24-symbol table) | Mean steps to 0.9 | Median | Solved by 32000 |
|---|---|---|---|
easy start, 0.005 | 13529 | 13450 | 16 |
easy start, 0.008 | 12855 | 12185 | 16 |
plain, 0.005 | 10997 | 10790 | 16 |
plain, 0.008 | 9858 | 9840 | 16 |
- Best mixed (
0.008) minus best plain (0.008):+2996.9[+1498.7, +4495.1]steps; ratio of mean steps1.304.
The kill test fires. On a table that plain training finds about twice as hard as the 20-symbol one, the easy start is still slower, by about 3000 steps.
What it says
Difficulty does not rescue a task without a rule. Plain training needs about 9900 steps here -- inside the range where, on the maximum, the easy start saved a quarter of the steps (lag 9, plain 9151, -26%; A65). On the table it costs 30% instead. Across A65, A66, A70 and A68, the pattern is now two-sided: with a rule shared between the easy and hard versions, the saving grows with difficulty; without one, the easy start costs time at both difficulties tried.
What stands
- A68: kill test fires. Random
24-symbol table: best mixed minus best plain+2996.9[+1498.7, +4495.1]steps, both at0.008.
Limits
- Both best rates are the top of a two-rate grid (
0.008). On the20-symbol table both arms were slower at0.012(A70), which suggests but does not show that0.008is near the optimum here too. - One table per size; width
48; sixteen seeds.
Terms on this page
Every piece of vocabulary this record uses, in plain language. Generated from the text above, so it cannot drift out of step with it.
- calibration
- Working out an instrument's settings from runs whose answer you already know, so it can be used on a run whose answer you do not.
- kill test
- A condition written down before running the experiment that says what result would make us abandon the idea. Fixing it in advance is what stops a disappointing result being reinterpreted as an encouraging one.
- seed
- The number that fixes all the randomness in a training run. Same seed, same run. Running several seeds is how you tell a real effect from a lucky one.
- width
- How many internal numbers a model uses at each layer. The usual way we vary model size in these experiments.
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