At Width 96 the Gap Holds Steady
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In plain English
What we asked. In a model twice as wide, the easy-task warm-up helped less than in the small one, but the gap was still growing when training stopped. Given more time, would it keep growing, as it had in the small model?
What we found. No. Over two and a half times as much training, both versions kept improving and the warm-up stayed about five points ahead, never pulling further away. In the small model the gap had grown to thirty points.
Why it matters. So the large benefit we found does not simply carry over to a bigger model. There is a catch, though: the bigger model also needed a slower learning rate, and the next test checks whether that, rather than size, is what made the difference.
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EXPLORATORY. Not a preregistered study. Local CPU,16training runs of15000steps. The design and the kill test were committed (5de4562) before any run.
Program v2 Bucket A, item A24. Decisive computation: . Output: analysis/warmup_width_longer.py.analysis/warmup_width_longer.json
The question
A19 found the varied warm-up helps at width 96 on a lag-12 target by +0.051 at step 6000 -- a quarter of width 48's gain -- with both arms still climbing and the gap still opening. At width 48, a longer run widened the gap from +0.215 to +0.304 (A16). Is width 96's smaller gain an early reading?
Design: A19's code, arms and seeds run to step 15000. Kill test, fixed before execution: shuffled minus fixed at step 15000 includes +0.051 or lies below it. Anchor, in code: the first 6000 steps of both arms reproduce A19 exactly -- held on all eight seeds.
Results
Lag-12 accuracy (mean of 8) | Step 6000 | Step 10000 | Step 15000 |
|---|---|---|---|
fixed lag 12 | 0.563 | 0.659 | 0.729 |
shuffled early, then lag 12 | 0.614 | 0.713 | 0.769 |
| difference, paired | +0.051 [+0.011, +0.090] | +0.054 [+0.016, +0.092] | +0.040 [+0.000, +0.080] |
| seeds higher with the warm-up | 6 of 8 | 7 of 8 | 7 of 8 |
The kill test fires. From step 6000 to 15000 both arms gain about 0.16 and the gap stays near +0.05, ending at +0.040 with an interval touching zero. At width 96 the warm-up gives a steady lead of about five points, not a widening one. Width 48's gap grew from +0.215 to +0.304 over the same extension; this one did not grow.
What it says
The width-48 picture -- a warm-up that changes which solution training finds, and so raises the ceiling -- does not reproduce at width 96 on this design. Here the warm-up reads more like a small constant head start that the plain run has not closed by step 15000.
But A19 changed two things at once. To keep width 96 at the edge of learnability it moved the task (lag 12, length 32) and halved the learning rate (0.005, because width 96 collapsed at 0.01). The standing rule applies: one change can alter two things. A26 has since shown the warm-up works through an early window of training, and a window is measured in the optimiser's clock -- which the rate sets. So the smaller effect may belong to the width or to the rate. A29 separates them: width 48, A15's task, at rate 0.005.
What stands
- A24: kill test fires. At width
96the warm-up's lead holds near+0.05from step6000to15000and does not open (+0.040[+0.000, +0.080]at15000,7of8seeds higher). - The width-
48ceiling result (A16) does not reproduce at width96on this design.
Limits
- Width, task and rate all changed between width
48and96; A29 isolates the rate. - A19's warm-up was
1500steps of lags3/6/9; A23 and A25 since found a shorter warm-up of one nearby lag does as well at width48, and neither has been tried at width96.
ANSWERED 2026-09-28 by A29. The smaller gain at width96goes with the rate, not the width: at width48and rate0.005the warm-up gives-0.034[-0.104, +0.035], because the plain run does far better there. Text and numbers above unchanged.
Terms on this page
Every piece of vocabulary this record uses, in plain language. Generated from the text above, so it cannot drift out of step with it.
- accuracy
- The fraction of answers a model gets right on questions it was not trained on.
- kill test
- A condition written down before running the experiment that says what result would make us abandon the idea. Fixing it in advance is what stops a disappointing result being reinterpreted as an encouraging one.
- learning rate
- How big a step training takes each time it updates the model. Too small and nothing happens; too big and it never settles.
- seed
- The number that fixes all the randomness in a training run. Same seed, same run. Running several seeds is how you tell a real effect from a lucky one.
- width
- How many internal numbers a model uses at each layer. The usual way we vary model size in these experiments.
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