Research record

Order Did Not Help, Mixing Might

Ongoing research. This is an experimental result from active work, not a settled conclusion. The numbers are what we measured and the method is described so you can judge it, but the programme is still running and later experiments may revise what it means.

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Part of a bigger question: Is the task we are studying actually hard? – Often it is not. A rule from 1990 with no parameters beats the trained model on the task most of these results were measured on, and what an intervention costs is set by the task's own structure.

In plain English

What we asked. A common idea in training is the curriculum: start with easy examples and work up to hard ones. We tested it on a memory task, using the same amount of compute for every approach, against simply practising the hard version from the start.

What we found. Working up in order was no faster. Surprisingly, a random mix of the easier versions early on ended noticeably more accurate on the hard version, and more consistently. We did not predict that in advance, so we are re-testing it on fresh runs before claiming it.

Why it matters. The lesson: an ordered curriculum is not automatically better than the obvious alternative, and a surprise found after the fact needs its own test.

The rest of this page is the technical record: the design, every number, and the limits. It is written for a reviewer, and you do not need it to have understood the result above.

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EXPLORATORY. Not a preregistered study. Local CPU, 24 training runs of 6000 steps. The design, the shuffled control and the kill test were committed (e1db39b) before any run; one throwaway was disclosed in the pilot.

Program v2 Bucket A, item A14. Decisive computation: analysis/lag_staircase.py. Output: analysis/lag_staircase.json. Post-hoc, changing no verdict: analysis/lag_staircase_posthoc.py -> analysis/lag_staircase_posthoc.json.

The question

A curriculum -- easier examples first -- is the classic answer to "which data, in which order". A14 tests one at matched compute: J8's width-48 GRU copying a random stream at lag 8, against a staircase that trains at lags 2, 4, 6 for 500 steps each before lag 8, and A3's control, a shuffled mixture of the same lags in random order for the same 1500 steps. Same batch, length and steps, so the same FLOPs. Rate 0.01 (below T22's critical rate at every lag), eight receivers, 6000 steps. Endpoint: the step at which lag-8 held-out accuracy reaches 0.5.

Easy-to-hard ordering did not help; mixing easy tasks in early may lift the ceiling
Easy-to-hard ordering did not help; mixing easy tasks in early may lift the ceiling. Three ways to spend the same compute on a hard memory task: practise it from the start, work up through easier versions in order, or practise easier versions in a random mix first. Each line averages eight training runs. Working up in order was no faster. The random mix of easier versions ended clearly higher on the hard task. That was not the test we set in advance, so we are now testing it properly on new runs.

Kill test, fixed before execution: staircase minus fixed has an interval including zero or above it. Anchor: the fixed arm reproduces J8's own loop exactly. It holds.

Result: the kill test fires

ArmReached 0.5Step to 0.5
fixed lag 87/82315 [1585, 3045]
staircase8/82551 [1936, 3166]
shuffled mixture8/82242 [2140, 2343]
Paired differenceSteps
staircase minus fixed+275 [-214, +764]
staircase minus shuffled+309 [-267, +885]
shuffled minus fixed-57 [-713, +599]

The staircase does not bring lag-8 learning sooner -- if anything later -- and the ordering earns no credit.

What the final accuracies show (post-hoc)

The lag-8 task plateaus not far above 0.5 for this model, so the arms may differ more in where they end than in when they cross it. At step 6000:

Final lag-8 accuracyMeanPaired against fixed
fixed0.645 [0.543, 0.747]--
staircase0.671 [0.609, 0.734]+0.027 [-0.084, +0.137]
shuffled mixture0.790 [0.762, 0.817]+0.145 [+0.029, +0.261]

The shuffled mixture also ends +0.118 [+0.045, +0.191] above the staircase. Mixing easier lags in early, in random order, may raise how far the model gets; putting them in order does not. This is post-hoc on eight receivers, so A15 preregisters it on fresh seeds.

What stands

  • Kill test fires: at matched compute an easy-to-hard lag staircase does not reach lag-8 accuracy 0.5 sooner.
  • Post-hoc: a shuffled mixture of the easier lags ends higher on lag 8 (+0.145), and more consistently, than either the fixed stream or the staircase.

Limits

  • One task, one width, one rate, one staircase schedule. The lag-8 task is near this model's capacity limit.

CONFIRMED 2026-09-28 by A15. On eight fresh seeds, with the endpoint fixed in advance, the shuffled mixture ends +0.215 [+0.135, +0.296] higher on lag-8 accuracy at step 6000 than the fixed stream. Text and numbers above unchanged.

Terms on this page

Every piece of vocabulary this record uses, in plain language. Generated from the text above, so it cannot drift out of step with it.

accuracy
The fraction of answers a model gets right on questions it was not trained on.
curriculum
Training on easier examples first and harder ones later, like a school syllabus, rather than on everything at once.
GRU
Gated Recurrent Unit. A compact design for processing sequences one item at a time, with internal switches controlling what it keeps in memory.
held-out
Data the model was never trained on, kept back specifically to test it. Scoring a model on data it has already seen measures memorisation, not learning.
kill test
A condition written down before running the experiment that says what result would make us abandon the idea. Fixing it in advance is what stops a disappointing result being reinterpreted as an encouraging one.
plateau
A stretch of training where the model is not visibly improving. Often, though not always, followed by a sudden jump.
post hoc
Worked out after the fact, rather than decided in advance. We report such checks separately and never let them decide a result, because it is far too easy to find a pattern once you already know the answer.
seed
The number that fixes all the randomness in a training run. Same seed, same run. Running several seeds is how you tell a real effect from a lucky one.
width
How many internal numbers a model uses at each layer. The usual way we vary model size in these experiments.

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