Slower Than Tuned, Not Hotter
Ongoing research. This is an experimental result from active work, not a settled conclusion. The numbers are what we measured and the method is described so you can judge it, but the programme is still running and later experiments may revise what it means.
A note on the language in these records. This is a working laboratory notebook for research into training AI models more cheaply and efficiently, so you will read that an approach did not work, that a result did not hold up, or that one method was worse than another. That is the research doing its job, not a verdict on the engineering we deliver to clients. Ruling an approach out is how the search narrows, and these are the pages that teach us the most: nearly every technique we now rely on came from understanding why something else fell short. Testing our own ideas at least as hard as anyone else's is the point of publishing them. More about this programme and why we run it.
Part of a bigger question: Is the task we are studying actually hard? – Often it is not. A rule from 1990 with no parameters beats the trained model on the task most of these results were measured on, and what an intervention costs is set by the task's own structure.
In plain English
What we asked. After a too-large learning rate undid some of our results, we checked every other result. A few ran on tasks where nobody had found the best rate yet. We found it for one of them.
What we found. That task learns fastest at a learning rate of 0.010, twice the 0.005 the earlier result used. So the earlier result was run slowly, not too fast, and its conclusion does not change.
Why it matters. Audits are mostly reassurance. Doing them anyway is how you find the ones that are not.
The rest of this page is the technical record: the design, every number, and the limits. It is written for a reviewer, and you do not need it to have understood the result above.
New here? How to read a research record
- Start at the verdict. Every record states, before the experiment was run, what result would have made us abandon the idea. That is the "kill test". Then it says whether the test fired. Nothing gets reinterpreted after the fact.
- Numbers in square brackets are uncertainty.
23.4 [18.1, 28.7]means our best estimate is 23.4 and the true value is probably somewhere in that range. If a range includes zero, we cannot claim an effect. - Results that rule an idea out are kept. Roughly half of what is published here says an approach did not work, including plenty of our own. Those pages are the output, not a shortfall: knowing which direction is a dead end is what lets the next experiment go somewhere better, and most of what we now rely on came out of understanding why something else fell short. Work that only publishes what worked is not measuring anything.
- Read the Limits section. Every record ends with what it does not show. It is the most honest part of any experiment and usually the shortest.
- Pro tip: the figures near the top are designed to carry the result on their own. If you read nothing else, read the caption under each one, which says what it shows and what to take from it.
EXPLORATORY. Not a preregistered study. Local CPU,30training runs of600steps. The design and the kill test were committed (c39b955) before any run.
Program v2 Bucket A, item A38. Decisive computation: . Output: analysis/wide_vocab_rate.py.analysis/wide_vocab_rate.json
The question
A37 found two surviving claims with no tuned rate on their own task. R12 is one: it ran at 0.005 on dispatch-copy-wide-vocab, never swept. Did it run hot?
Design: O19's recipe, unchanged, on R12's own loop and seeds: whole-run rates 0.003-0.014, R12's criterion transition and final accuracy; the tuned rate is the fastest whose runs all reach the criterion and whose mean final accuracy is within 0.01 of the lowest rate's. Kill test, fixed before execution: the tuned rate is below 0.005. Anchor, in code: at 0.005 every control reproduces R12's committed control exactly -- held.
Results
| Rate | Mean criterion transition (steps) | Final accuracy |
|---|---|---|
0.003 | 206.7 | 0.522 |
0.005 (R12) | 153.3 | 0.548 |
0.007 | 133.3 | 0.558 |
0.010 | 123.3 | 0.562 |
0.014 | 130.0 | 0.563 |
The kill test does not fire. The tuned rate is 0.010 -- the same as O19 found for the narrower dispatch copy -- so R12 ran below its task's tuned rate, not above it. Every run reaches the criterion at every rate.
What that means for R12. R12 is exposed to R18's opposite concern (a slow rate) rather than A37's: at 0.010 its control reaches the criterion about 30 steps sooner. R12's question was which of two predictors -- 1.40 times the control's transition, or rung index 4 -- locates the donor-length optimum. At the tuned rate the multiple predicts 1.40 x 123.3 = 172.6, whose nearest rung is still 200, the rung R12 measured. The rung the multiple points to does not move; whether the optimum itself moves at the faster rate is not tested here.
What stands
- A38: kill test does not fire.
dispatch-copy-wide-vocabtunes to0.010; R12's0.005was not hot. - One claim (R2) now has no tuned rate on its own task -- its pool of several tasks has no single rate to sweep.
Limits
- Six seeds and O19's rule, which trades speed against a
0.01accuracy tolerance.
Terms on this page
Every piece of vocabulary this record uses, in plain language. Generated from the text above, so it cannot drift out of step with it.
- accuracy
- The fraction of answers a model gets right on questions it was not trained on.
- kill test
- A condition written down before running the experiment that says what result would make us abandon the idea. Fixing it in advance is what stops a disappointing result being reinterpreted as an encouraging one.
- seed
- The number that fixes all the randomness in a training run. Same seed, same run. Running several seeds is how you tell a real effect from a lucky one.
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